Anybody agree? I almost want start a frikin boycott. But that's not gonna happen. Also do any teens still play this game? Everyone I meet in lbp3 are around 8yo

22 and I still play...well...create rather.

Well, that statement is somewhat broad, could you expand on it and express a little bit of your argument more rather than in abstractions?

Anyways, I'm a teen too though, and hardly have the time to play but in my free time, I'm not a big deal either but it's a wonderful pastime to occupy myself with, I'm mostly into playing levels to my taste like puzzles and reviewing levels to contribute, but do like to create whenever the opportunity is there

And?

Obviously it gets played a lot since it's one of the most popular levels. I haven't bothered with it though.

What exactly is the point of this topic?

Yeah it's kind of pointless. People(especially kids) love these types of levels and will keep playing them. Of course, you can still find great levels on forums.

basically you're just stating the obvious. the largest part of the population generally has lousy tastes. is that my opinion? yes. but it has more evidence than that. case and point, those "Bomb Survival" and "Shark survival" levels are still the most actively searched on lbp. sad, isn't it?

but yea. people aren't going to stop playing that level.

They are kinda fun with 2 players, but that's not the point... Creators just publish them cuz they know it will get plays! My cousin did 1 shark survival on lbpv and he got more than 200 plays in 1 day, and then he tried to publish 1 platformer with more details with more effort and he got less than 20 plays...


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The average age for LittleBigPlanet 2 and 3 is about 10-12 years old. I would know since that's the majority of people that join me for a show I run on my channel. Regardless kids like to play simple levels with simple objectives.

Join the club. I'm 26 and I still play a couple times a week. Having a hard time finding new levels to play though .

I am pretty sure the point of this topic is to rant about the communities taste in levels.

I think that's starting to become a collective opinion. I rarely see people ask to play bomb/shark survivals but rather the same type of creepypasta levels OVER AND OVER. Well regardless, considering the core audience of this game, it's not surprising. It still has it's good moments at times.

Basically, the only levels that get attention are...
costume levels (most of the which contain stolen content)
picture rooms (which are usually just pieces of badly mangled white/black neon placed over a cardboard floor)
sticker levels for costumes (most of which contain stolen content)
100 or whatever prize levels (most of which contain stolen and/or crappy objects)
copied bomb survivals, shark survivals, parkour levels, press X levels, Saw levels, Wipeout levels, tsunami levels, etc.
advertised levels
fake DLC hacks
"singing sackbot" giveaways
"horror" levels (most of them are bad, and most of the good ones are moderated)
RPG levels (which are okay, but it doesn't really seem that a lot of effort is put into most of them and they're not very creative)
"Stop bullying" levels (copied)
and the list goes on...

The Team Picks have been relatively bad lately. Don't get me wrong, the creators that get up there are 10,000 times more talented than me and there are some pretty good picks, but the recent team picks have seemed lackluster. It's also annoying how every time there's a new team pick, an announcement is added in the news which means that the new news message will pop up every time more levels are selected.

Remember when StevenI picked his own level? It is called Ramp and is a very horrible ramp made in the LBP1 beta. It also wasn't made by him. It immediately received backlash, and he began deleting reviews and pulled the level out of the Team Picks. I left a review which managed to get into the Top Reviews criticizing him for choosing to add it but not the hundreds of good levels that haven't been picked yet, and 1 day after adding it, my account was suspended for 1 day. I'm not sure if it had anything to do with the review, but it's too close to be coincidental.

Sorry for changing the conversation, but i agree with you fox! Also i wanted that StevenI picked some platformers too, it's rare to see platormers being picked, isn't it? I don't get why! He just pick puzzle levels and that ones that just have logic all over the place! I'm not that good at logic but i prefer the visuals and gameplay ( without much logic ). The unique things that they want to see when they pick levels are if they have much logic and if they are long! That's my opinion! Now talking about work n buy rpg, yeah i agree that many ppl is playing that, im not a fan...


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Ramps in Team Picks is April fool, .
Platformers is rare in TP - WAT?
If platformer very original without cliches with good design ( some times without good desugn), platromer will Team Picked.

Im doing a platformer now with good design and gameplay but it will be short so idk if that's possible!

The creator behind Work N Buy is obviously talented, he knows what hes doing in terms of getting people to stay in his levels at least. He designed it in a clever way so that new players are very unlikely to leave within 10 minutes, it's very addictive and you can easily spend 30 minutes if you're not watching the clock. It has a low replay value but a extremely high play value, which in other terms means that you are very likely to spend a lot of time in the level before beating it. What I just said is the main reason to why it's always on the busiest page and that spot grants it an unlimited amount of activity from new players that happens to see the level on the top of the busiest page.

Don't worry though, when people start to produce addictive LBP3 versus levels (that takes time) they will eventually replace LBP2 levels on the busiest page.

Well if people still play his level, its good for the community really, and himself. I don't really see why not start a boycott, its just to gain hearts, and popularity, and all.
Anyways, I'm assuming what Fantasy is talking about is that he no longer wants the level on the busiest page of the community, or in game. Which means relatively, or relating to a creator (Owner), to delete the level furthermore.

But that's just my theory based off of the text,

I mean does it really matter? It is just a level (Well lets not go to the point where all levels are getting copied, but you get the idea.)

Very interesting thread to read.

Believe me; we have discussed Work N' Buy quite extensively ourselves!

However amongst all these discussions there is one undeniable factor, its staying power seems to excel that of any other level that works its way up the Busiest section.

Definitely appreciate you don't want to see the same level over and over but unless we fundamentally change the rules for this one level just to get rid of it, there's no reason for us to force it to drop since it's a consistently populated level within the community.

We are keeping an eye on it though and are curious to see ourselves if there's going to be a change in trend in the community that will cause it to drop once and for all.

In the meantime though, if you want to clear the Busiest category (or any category) of any levels you have already played though, you can always hit the Right Stick (R3) within any of the categories and disable the "Played" filter.

personally, I wanted to leave the level within the first minute that I was taken there by someone. but the level has earned it's spot. I agree with StevenI here.

never expect the cool content to be the most popular content.

^ After all some do vary,
Some levels such as "LBP Shark Survival", or "LBP Mortal Combat", do vary from actual ratings who play it, and post.
I'm assuming because it gets a certain amount of plays this is why it occurs, anyways I'm getting off topic.

'Work N Buy RPG' is just for role play partically, this used to be a huge thing to share imagination easily with the players around you if they are playing with you properly, and it starts to develop imagery in their head eventually if good enough, and appealing to the eye.

I told you we were looking into why this level is so popular and that's still true!

Investigating the play times of our Busiest levels, we found that Work N' Buy has a rather whopping average playtime of 19 minutes!

That's an incredibly high figure considering that the average level can be completed in less than 5 minutes and it includes folks that come into play and drop out immediately.

So that goes quite someway to explaining why this level is so busy!

It seems that people get quite hooked on it and can spend some very lengthy play sessions within it, which in turn means that there's a considerably increased number of player groups playing this level at the same time, making it the Busiest level.

We're still looking into this level ourselves but it does seem that a level that is able to capture players for such an extended period of time has the best chance of working its way up the Busiest category.

That level is played every day about 300 times...
And many of them are in LBP2...
For me it seems not to be so popular in LBP3...

http://lbp-hub.com/statisticsx.php?level=j9cs06&creator=AaronDBaron2

I understand that playtime has to be in that formula, but other levels have thousands of plays a day in LBP3, they should be "busier" than that Work'N'Buy level...

While we're talking about the busiest levels page I just want to bring this up...

Is Steven even aware of the missing LBP3 levels on the busiest levels page in LBP.me? Who is even in charge of maintaining LBP.me? I'm guessing that it's the same team who currently runs the game. Why has this been overlooked for so long? Is it pure laziness or is it just extremely hard to fix? It would be nice to have other ways to monitor ALL the levels on the busiest level page through the web-browser. Currently you can only see LBP2 levels and this is a huge error in my opinion because LBP3 is after all the most active LittleBigPlanet.

And Hanfi1311 is right, LBP2 is the main reason to why Work N' Buy is so active. I have noticed that it's almost always on the top of the busiest levels page in LBP2 and this gives it an edge over all other busy LBP3 levels because LBP3 levels cannot be played in LBP2.

If that was a April Fools Joke, it certainly wasn't funny. I think that everyone who left a review on the level agrees, although you probably can't see most of the reviews because they've been deleted. It is almost an insult to people who have created good levels which weren't picked for some reason.

eh.. I think it's a fairly decent level.. just not in my taste. I don't think the various section should discriminate whether or not it's being played in LBP2 or LBP3. maybe eventually, enough of these people will have moved over to LBP3 to have made a difference.

these sections like "Busiest Levels" and whatnot are sort of like the "Top 40" charts in music. most of this music is pretty generic but the majority of people don't have a very well rounded taste in music. but that's just what it is. the majority of people like what they like... does that make it great?.. not really. but it has earned it's spot

We just need to make a multiplayer RPG with ridiculous amounts of grinding and no plot to bump it down.

then make it copiable to create an epidemic

God no, that's like reviving smallpox, or creating a new plague

hehehehe

When I used to think it was fun, my average playing time was a whopping 2 hours! So, I know many enjoy playing it very much.

I'm 23 years old and I mostly play through any platformer levels I can find. I generally avoid the RPG levels. I jsut did that one team picked level where you run through the temple with the hook hat. It was awesome!

When I say RPG, I don't mean what the community calls an RPG. I mean a game where you level up, collect loot, play quests, blah blah blah. A role playing game one might say... not a level where you walk around a house... even some of the more "role playing" time levels are more like simulation games than what people think of as RPGs.

RPG stands for Role Playing Game. While playing a role may be an adventurer's quest, or it could just be a Hangout where you Role Play as a family. The fraise just means a game where you take on roles, so it is just a sum. It is open for anything with roles.

the reason I argue against a house level as a role playing game is that while you can pretend to play the role of a family or whatever, there are no inherent roles set up for the player to fill in many cases. Take for example the Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. You take on the specific role of the dragonborn and complete various tasks relating to that role and other roles you can fill (thieves guild member, companions member, etc). In a level that is purely designed as a hangout, the role playing would have to come from the players own design, not from the level itself. 


Not to say there aren't levels with gray area, such as levels like the one this topic actually centers on. It offers some role playing elements sure, even if purists may not consider it an RPG because it's not what is classically defined as an RPG. 

My whole point though is that what the average LBP community member considers to be an RPG, I consider to just be a hangout level, so when I use the term "RPG" I'm referring to a game like Skyrim, like Mass Effect, like Dark Souls, Final Fantasy, or even Pokemon.

I would say that the hangout levels being called "RPG" are a bit misleading to most gamers. same with Tynz, when I hear "RPG", I think games like Elder Scrolls, Final Fantasy, ect.. this is something I remember when I first started LBP2. i played a hangout level and my first thought was "RPG???.. erm..".not that some hangouts aren't pretty cool. I've actually played and recommended some fantastic levels that are hangouts. as for Work n Buy RPG, i'd say it's more than a hangout. it actually gives you things to do (with options) to achieve goals. by definition, this level actually does fit the role of RPG. but yes, "RPG" gets tossed around sort of loosely in LBP.