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2017-05-26 16:46:56 / Author: Angelicatoo
Hi again,
I have honestly looked all over for an answe to this but cant find one. Apart from temporarily, when you select with a box to move something, how do you group something so that it stays grouped, in than if you try to delete one bit you deete the lot. Along with that when you download community objects that have been grouped together, how do you ungroup them? |
2017-05-26 16:46:56
Author:Angelicatoo Posts: 49
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2017-05-26 18:53:35 / Author: Psmerga
Those community items which you cant ungroup are protected against copying or editing.
Normaly you cant ungroup them or delete single parts. There is a way around. Put a destroy tweak on the pat that should be deleted. Take care that it only destroys the part on which you placed the chip/tweak. Repeat it until you are satisfied with the item. Remember, every community item that you can use on the moon is in your bag somewhere or you can create it yourself. So there is normaly no need to use the community items. Except music. Have fun. |
2017-05-26 18:53:35
Author:Psmerga Posts: 373
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2017-05-26 20:26:43 / Author: Angelicatoo
No, I mean the ones that come all joined together with yellow lines, they are seperate items. Also I would like to know how to so it myself, I mean group and ungroup.
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2017-05-26 20:26:43
Author:Angelicatoo Posts: 49
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2017-05-26 21:07:40 / Author: mdkd
You can't edit a community object like a material.
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2017-05-26 21:07:40
Author:mdkd Posts: 1856
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2017-05-26 22:48:54 / Author: Angelicatoo
No I want to be able to bundle several items together, and I want to group items with seperate parts and be able to ungroup them if I want to.
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2017-05-26 22:48:54
Author:Angelicatoo Posts: 49
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2017-05-27 02:14:24 / Author: CuriousSack
Hi Angelicatoo,
as far as I know there is no group/ ungoup function in lbp1/2/3 like one could find f.e. in some 3D software on PCs. If you want to group things together then you have to glue them together. If you want to group things that have no direct physical contact, then you could create a block of sticker panel material, which touches every single element of the group and then glue it with the elements. If you put the transparancy of the sticker panel to 0% then you can't see this block in the game view. This also functions with hologram material. If you want to ungroup the group, you only need to delete the block. If you want to delete the whole group, then you could put a destroyer on the block which has the setting: ..."also the connected elements" (sorry, but I don't know the English name of it!) I hope this helps, many greetings, Jürgen^^ |
2017-05-27 02:14:24
Author:CuriousSack Posts: 865
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2017-05-27 06:19:57 / Author: Psmerga
Perhaps holding R2 while selecting different material pieces or items is helping?
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2017-05-27 06:19:57
Author:Psmerga Posts: 373
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2017-05-27 07:14:26 / Author: Hanfi1311
Grouping is only possible with community prizes, that means, you have to create another account on your PS3/PS4... In create mode switch on a second controller and capture what you want to group and save it in the popit of player 2... switch off the 2nd controller... quit LBP and switch to the other account on PS3/PS4 and start LBP... Go to create and put your captured object in an empty level, capture it again and put the object in a prize bubble, set the prizebubble to not shareable (hope its named that way, i use the german version of the game), put the prize bubble in an empty level and publish it... quit LBP and switch to main profile and start LBP... go to the level in play mode and collect the prize bubble... go in create mode, now you should have the grouped item in your popit as community item...
That is just a work around, because there is no grouping possible in LBP in a normal way... The only thing is to clue it like CuriousSack said above... |
2017-05-27 07:14:26
Author:Hanfi1311 Posts: 210
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2017-05-27 08:59:58 / Author: mdkd
I'm curious, why would you want to do that?
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2017-05-27 08:59:58
Author:mdkd Posts: 1856
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2017-05-27 10:12:26 / Author: Angelicatoo
Hi I have seen videos about destroyers, dont they only activate in play mode and everything goes back to the way it was in create mode ? although I did manage to kill two sackbots in create mode yesterday I will have a go thanks but I have a felling I already tried it |
2017-05-27 10:12:26
Author:Angelicatoo Posts: 49
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2017-05-28 05:48:03 / Author: CuriousSack
Hi Angelicatoo,
I've just tried it, but the destroyer also destroys objects in create mode if you activate it! |
2017-05-28 05:48:03
Author:CuriousSack Posts: 865
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2017-05-28 09:49:40 / Author: mdkd
I personally knew this before.
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2017-05-28 09:49:40
Author:mdkd Posts: 1856
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2017-05-28 10:07:29 / Author: Angelicatoo
I think the idea is about sharing and community, saving someone else from spending time doing what you did whether thats making or learning if they dont want to and feeling pleasure that someone else might appreciate your work enough to use it themselves. I made some things myself that I thought someone else might like to play with but they need grouping both where glueing individual items are concerned and to group them as one object for sharing purposes. |
2017-05-28 10:07:29
Author:Angelicatoo Posts: 49
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2017-05-28 11:31:24 / Author: Angelicatoo
It remains a mystery to me, I just tried it and it blew up one bit but didnt ungroup the rest... I tried gluing but if I put the cursor on one bit it just deletes that one bit. So am bamboozled. I did manage to ungroup something once by accident but dont know how. |
2017-05-28 11:31:24
Author:Angelicatoo Posts: 49
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2017-05-28 13:07:04 / Author: mdkd
Why do you want to make that?
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2017-05-28 13:07:04
Author:mdkd Posts: 1856
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2017-05-28 15:02:32 / Author: Angelicatoo
one because as I said I once downloaded some community objects, all of them seperate objects but attatched together with yellow lines, I deleted them because I couldn't ungroup them. Then because I made some tiles (and I might want to make some more things) and they contain quite a few materials, they resize and tile nicely but when you want to delete them every single bit needs deleting seperately even if glued. I would just like them to be one object. If you see the backgrounds in my pictures in the 'more photos' thread, the chinese and the Egyptian one , you can see what I mean. Allso I made some with bevels that balloon when rescaled and need to put material tweakers on each seperate material. I like what I have made and thought someone else might like them, ( I made quite a lot of different ones) but I dont feel that I can share them with the way they are at the moment.
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2017-05-28 15:02:32
Author:Angelicatoo Posts: 49
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2017-05-28 15:41:54 / Author: mdkd
I would do it by myself. It's the easiest way.
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2017-05-28 15:41:54
Author:mdkd Posts: 1856
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2017-05-28 16:02:52 / Author: Angelicatoo
do what by yourself?
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2017-05-28 16:02:52
Author:Angelicatoo Posts: 49
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2017-05-28 18:57:41 / Author: ramkibainu
there is a way to group objects with the yellow lines that you want:
what do you need is the terrible oni emitter, capture the objects and emits them and voila! they will be group as a single object even if the parts aren't glued, (just remember made the parts static or they will fall) |
2017-05-28 18:57:41
Author:ramkibainu Posts: 145
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2017-05-28 19:35:29 / Author: Angelicatoo
Thanks, I'll have a go tomorrow, how do you get them ungrouped again? Edit: well I had a look and couldnt see what you meant but thanks anyway I think I give up with that . |
2017-05-28 19:35:29
Author:Angelicatoo Posts: 49
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2017-05-28 20:15:23 / Author: mdkd
Just use that way with the emitter if you want to have the object like a community object.
I personally work different in create mode, that's why I asked. |
2017-05-28 20:15:23
Author:mdkd Posts: 1856
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2017-05-29 18:59:44 / Author: ramkibainu
sadly you can't ungroup them if you emmit the object, it deletes complete if you try to erase
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2017-05-29 18:59:44
Author:ramkibainu Posts: 145
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2017-05-29 20:06:21 / Author: mdkd
Those are the limitations of LBP.
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2017-05-29 20:06:21
Author:mdkd Posts: 1856
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2017-06-06 03:03:47 / Author: ramkibainu
sorry, that trick was working some time ago, maybe a patch screwed it
another way you can do it, is making a second account, publish your objects in bubble prizes and collect them to your main account or send them from one account to another via share this way your objects will be grouped as they are community prizes about the ungroup i can't find a way to do it |
2017-06-06 03:03:47
Author:ramkibainu Posts: 145
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