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Hello Members. It's the time for the 51st edition of Top or Flop! We've done some ratings and reviewing here and there. So, Let's begin!



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Let's see what some people said about this level:

Another amazing level from Konnron! The design was lovely and the animals were well-made! The audio was super and the gameplay was pretty unique and creative!

Gameplay 9.5/10
Originality: 7/7
Design: 8/8
Audio 4/5

So we're giving it a:
Top!




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Let's see what some people said about this level:

Oh my! Another stunning job! Everything on your level was brilliant Keep it up, dude!

Gameplay 10/10
Originality: 7/7
Design: 8/8
Audio 5/5

So we're giving it a:
Top!




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Let's see what some people said about this level:


Nice work. But, the controls are bad, so hard to survive. The design was great and the audio impressive.

Gameplay 3.5/10
Originality: 3/7
Design: 6/8
Audio 3.5/5

So we're giving it an:
Okay



Here is a short preview of this week Team Picks!

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This week we had two Tops and one Okay


Well that's it for this week! What do you think, would you change any scores? Anything! Let us know down at the replies


We'd like to point out that our views or opinions do not represent those of LittleBigForum as a whole.

Nice episode!

Great episode! Very good rating for all of them, good job!

Thank you guys

To be honest, I find this entire idea and series degrading and down right rude. It's one thing to leave a subtle review with constructive criticism on the actual level, but to make an entire series that can possibly slate these levels is just wrong. It's not helping the creators and if anything is supporting other people to begin openly slating them too which isn't the attitude we need. Not only that, but it could even repel them from creating again if they are part of this fan site. All you're doing is highlighting the bad parts of the levels and then labelling them a "flop" which they clearly are not since they were recognised by StevenI and consequently given a team pick. I just find it horrible to see these levels labelled in such a negative and then for that to be broadcasted and trivialised.

Steveni *** his levels are full of copied and unoriginal levels, he blocked the comments on his lbp profile and teampicked some levels that didn't deserve to actually be picked beacause of originality and/or execution and the fat guy rolling minigame he teampicked is especially broken in a certain part and it would be in the majority of the level to be bad to be considered a flop the way you're saying makes it seem like there isn't such thing as mainstream flops, if so learn how the world works and you're taking this a bit too seriously

Had to censor the beginning of your text, Please try to express you opinion in a friendly way Warman

Whatever, you sit and wallow with your hating, cynical nature that involves slating others work and bringing them down rather than trying to help them. My whole point is the fact that this trivialises those levels that maybe aren't up to scratch and makes it public to a wide audience and runs the risk of cultivating those people generating more hate towards the creators - if you're going to criticise them maybe leave a review OR contact them personally tell them what they need to do. I just don't think it's right either for people to claim those people don't deserver TEAM PICKS either since they're down to the personal enjoyment of StevenI and not YOU.

Thanks for expressing yourself, but you don't know what am I doing private. Some people ask me why I gave them a low rating and then I tell what they have to impove so they will convince me that I had the wrong impression of them, with another level which will be better in the parts they couldn't "make" good. Although, my impression of the Team Picked level can't really change.

@microhamster, this is a review . Criticism can be helpful. Or it might not be. This really isn't different than any other review. These reviews don't go as far to say that these levels are horrid. These are team picks and many of us hold team picks to a higher standard. And if people can't handle some critiquing of their levels, they really shouldn't be publishing anything.

Also, this whole " Top or Flop " thing is just someones opinion. Everyone has the opportunity to play these levels for themselves and form their own opinions.

I have taken bad reviews by some "Team Picked" creators and it didn't bother me at all. And when it was time for me to judge their level in Top or Flop I judged how the level looked like and no how the creator behaved to me. Take this example and use it in your life, outside LittleBigPlanet too.

Plus, the person who "Team Picks" has let us do Top or Flop because he isn't disturbed about a single review.

I personally think you can get mio different toughts about a lvl. Dont feel angry just because John says what he thinks about it. If your not honest with your reviews nobody can improve and everyone says postitve things, just because they are it and this is sad

It's Steven Isbell's fault if someone's level is MM Picked without deserving to be and it's criticized. A lot of people publish levels not expecting them to become picked, and when they are, people leave bad reviews because they don't think that it deserves that pick. That's not their fault, and they probably would've gotten better reviews if the level was not picked, since MM Picks are expected to have higher standards. It's just how it is. If I published an OK level and it wasn't picked, then I'd get nice reviews. However, if it was picked, it wouldn't meet the standards of the other team picks which would make people mad, so they would leave bad reviews. It'd be cool if there was some kind of separate user based picking system, since Steven absolutely sucks when it comes to choosing which levels make it there.

Hey Micro! Good to see you. If you're the same Micro I'm thinking about then BRING THAT LEVEL BACK!! You know which one.
Ok, now for the serious. Chill out. This is a review, people are entitled to their opinions just like you are entitled to yours. This is kind of like the review stuff you'd see for films. Like those critic shows that say whether a film is a hit or a miss. Well maybe they shouldn't do that because it hurts the actors and director's feelings? C'mon. A site or a forum or newspaper or magazine or twitter account or whatever is entitle to their opinion about levels. Is the level a hit or a miss? That's their opinion. Anyway, I'm hungry and need to go get some waffles, eggs and bacon. Later.

@Fox Bad reviews or not, most people appreciate it when they receive a Team Pick. And, they always have the option to republish their level fresh if they really, really don't want it ( some people have actually done this ).I'm not really a fan of mean reviews. like " this level sucks.. -_- " but it can happen regardless of how popular the level is. With Team Picks, it's almost definitely going to get more of those sort of reviews no matter how " good " or " bad " the level is.The level simply gets more plays. But like I said before, if you can't handle the idea of negative reviews, don't publish the level.

People are going to have their own opinions as well. A perfect example is " In Your Notebook " at the top of this thread. I recommended it on this forum before it was team picked. I think it's a very creative level. But not too long after the team pick, someone on twitter commented on how it was the worst level out of that batch of picks. To each their own I guess.

First of all, why are we posting on this old thread?
And second, as long as Steve picks either good looking levels with average gameplay or average looking levels and good gameplay I'm content.

As much as I understand where you guys are coming from, I still don't agree. I just don't agree with the whole stigma surrounding Team picks and people saying they're a 'flop' or don't deserve it. I got a lot of this when I got mine, and it made me feel horrible and the thoughts that maybe I didn't deserve it began to creep and set in and and it's still something that I think about to this day as to whether those people slating me were right or whether they were just jealous. I don't think it's right to say that these levels were 'flops' in the sense that you're comparing them to a standard that shouldn't exist and is something the community has set rather than the people who actually award them. I just feel that some of you need to take a step back and put yourself in mine or many of these creators positions and wonder how it feels to have slaved over a level for weeks to months, for it to be called a 'flop' or not worthy of it's accolade that they have clearly earned in the eyes of Steven and therefore should be worthy in your eyes. Also, what a lot of you don't seem to realise is the majority of this community are kids, meaning that a lot of these picks have come from them and rather than being called a 'flop' or unworthy, they need to be encouraged and their talents cultivated otherwise what hope has the next generation of creators got?

I'm not saying you can't dislike a level, I'm first trying to dismiss the idea of saying these levels aren't 'worthy' of a Team pick because THEY ARE and you have no right to say they're not - even if you don't like the level, it doesn't mean many others feel the same! I also want to downplay this whole trivialisation of the matter and calling them 'flops' because i just feel it's too strong a word and suggests the level is completely unlikable - which it clearly isn't. I didn't mean to come of as abrasive as I was, it's just an issue I've faced before and feel strongly about and I'm sorry if I was!

PS: Yes, Bio it is me... causing trouble and arguing as I always do. And I am debating whether to do a 2.0 version of that level in LBP3 but with all the new tools I'm going to need a new gameplay concept which is going to take some time. I'm not fully sure what I want to do so you have to wait and see!

"I just feel that some of you need to take a step back and put yourself in mine or many of these creators positions and wonder how it feels to have slaved over a level for weeks to months, for it to be called a 'flop' "

everyone here knows the feeling of working very hard on something and having people tell them it's not good. that's all i'm going to say -_-

@micro Dang it! I do not want to wait and see. Dude, first, so very happy to see you back, even if it is for complaining reasons. Second, I wouldn't change anything with that level. It was simply gorgeous and worked beautifully. Oh, but you deleted it entirely didn't you? Dagnabbit! I wouldn't change the core gameplay if you do do a 2.0. Sure, the concept has been done a few times but not as well. I'd keep the same design frame too. Man, I just want to play that level again.

oh, and I guess to stay on topic so as not to get slapped by Freddy...yeah, I agree that a lot of the negative comments probably stem from jealousy. Really good to see you back Micro. Missed you man.

I was wondering what people's thoughts of my team picked level were.

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I don't really feel it was that team pick worthy, but Steven thought otherwise.

I'd like people's opinions as I'm working on a third level, this one with some story once I add that in. :U