As you may already know,spammers are becoming a big problem with lbp2. Yes Well i have a few suggestions to help fix this.1 we do NOT play any levels that looks as if it was copied i.e. mortal combat or fun downhill snowboarding that way spammers will end up getting no plays and we might just get rid of a few 2. NEVER give good comments to the level spammers will end up getting such bad comments they might even leave Lbp2 altogether 3.UNHEART every spammer that you may have hearted by accident maybe? even if he is your friend-if you want spammers to go away then you will need to do everything possible 5.report or try and bann them they turned OUR lbp2 from a happy place to a place of copied levels more people are leaving lbp2 because of copied levels they see everywhere they look 6. LAST RESORT send an E-mail to MM saying remove the "Copy" button from levels and take away all spammed levels that would take spammers away for good i hope you will take notice to this info and maybe start doing some of the options well, Goodbye for now http://www.littlebigforum.eu/forum/download/images/a_180_77874ac5.png

I'm am sorry but do you think you are talking to mentally disabled people? Hearting someone by accident and not unhearting them immediately makes absolutely no sense. Copiers don't get their hearts from people miss clicking, they get them from:
-H4H
-Other copiers
-Very low intelligence people who must learn very slowly and don't know what's going on in the LBP community(AKA "noobs" )

No. Just no.
How many times do I have to say that? Some people(like me) know how to use the "Copy" button properly and find it very useful in becoming a better creator, therefore removing it wouldn't be the best solution. The solution that seems perfect to me would be disabling the "Publish" button from copied levels on the moon, so that people can still see how levels are made, but the copiers can't get any popular/spam using somebody else's work.

If I seem a little bit nervous then I'm probably just not in the best mood today. Don't get me wrong.

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Also, there's a lot of posts on every LBP Fansite forum already and you're not helping anything. Just so you know that you wasted your time writing this topic.(And I wasted my time replying, but... no matter)

Well I hate to say it but this won't work. Sadly the majority of the lbp community are young players, and they simply don't enjoy detailed and artistic platformers or advanced shooters. They actually like playing mortal combat, snowboarding and free crown levels! It's not their fault, they are young and clueless and they're having fun! Spamming will never stop unless all the people who like those levels are gone, and that will likely never happen. Now that the cool pages have been moved you can find yourself good levels there, so the spammers won't really affect you. As long as we keep creating and playing legit levels the community will thrive

I don't know if "young" is the right word here. You have a very optimistic look here, but I have a completely different opinion based on logical arguments that I believe are right(they may not be). I'm guessing you mean young in playing LBP, but being "young" enough to be publishing copied levels, playing/yay-ing/heart-ing copied levels, H4H/P4P-ing for an intelligent person takes no longer that a few hours/one day, once you join the LBP community you learn about this instantly. There are thousands of levels trying to prevent this activity, literally everybody in LBP is talking about this, it's not possible that those people don't see that, you can only assume they are complete idiots or huge "trolls". Those people learn so slowly(or just want to mean to everyone), that there's nothing good you can say about them.

Ok, we'll I have one friend that plays lbp. He got it roughly 2 months ago, so he invited me over to his house to play it because he new it's my favorite game. First thing he did was go to the cool pages, pick the first one and played it. He absolutely loved it. Guess what? It was a snowboard survival copied 100s of times. He genuinely enjoyed it because it it mindless fun. Do you think he's thinking "well someone didn't puT effort into this I shouldn't play it."? No, of course not he's just laughing it up as we're trying to slap each other of the snowboard! It people like that who are playing these levels and keeping them popular. There are only a handful of people that actually go out of their way to copy spam and troll. It's people like my friend who feed them plays who keep those levels popular.

As for H4H and P4P, I do agree that these aren't a very fair way to get plays and hearts but it not even ruining lbp. If people want to H4H so be it. It doesn't affect me as long as they don't spam my profile.

And yes there are thousands of levels trying to save lbp. But the thing is if someone sees that on the CP mortal combat levels get tons of plays and legitimate levels don't the natural thing to do is post mortal combat levels! Why would you put effort into something that won't get any attention, that's what people think so they just publish dumb levels.

I don't think you understood my reply. You're saying that your friend played LBP for over 2 months and picked a random level from the Cool Pages and played it without reading any reviews/comments? That's exactly what I'm talking about, after 2 months he should know that you shouldn't play and rate levels that he doesn't know anything about because he didn't read anything about it. You may find a good level by picking randomly, but you can also waste your time playing a piece of crap, or a copied level, it's better to spend a couple seconds reading reviews than wasting minutes playing terrible levels. and it's not a thing you have to learn, it's just logical to do that. Everybody would know that at this point, because they are humans. And there's one thing that makes humans different from other animals, it's called "intelligence", it let's you understand the world that is surrounding you that's why you can read this text right now. And if somebody doesn't seem to show any signs of intelligence(AKA is a complete idiot), then can I really call him a "person", because "worthless piece of meat" seems to describe him/her a lot better.

It doesnt matter, he like the copied level because its mindless fun. Honestly he doesnt care if theyre copied hes just looking for some quick entertainment. Hes not looking for works of art. Like im noy an advocate for spammers im just tired of people thinking that others have a problem by playing those levels. If they enjoy playong spam whatever i enjoy played artistic platformers.

Don't tell me @Smigolpol that right when you began on LBP you never played MK? Everybody does, in LBP theres stages and thats the first one. "NOT KNOWING WHAT THE HELL YOUR DOING, But... You like it" We all know what your saying, & clearly understand. But if everyone that played copied levels left the community, every single creator (Real creator) would go mental. Play rates would drop 75%. We have to wait until they go to stage two. When they start appreciating good levels.

@smigolpol when i said heart them by accident i meant maybe when you just started playing lbp2 you hearted latin player 10 because you thought his levels were good and when i said 6. i said LAST RESORT! ind i am a "good" creator and i have never needed to use the copy button so there!

i think that after the last update the spammers are getting less plays you can still find the cool pages if you look at 'more' if you see the cool pages now it got a lot better.

yeah that was a great update

"Mindless fun"? I have to admit I don't really understand what you mean. Why would you do something that doesn't give you anything in result? I really don't understand how can you enjoy like a snowboard slide level? You don't do almost anything and you don't learn anything or you don't even have to put any effort at all in playing. That's waste of time, not "fun". Personally, I think the same is about platformers. I don't know how people "enjoy" playing them. I don't know anything about art so I might be wrong here, but for me making "artistic" platformer levels is a total waste of time, platformers are all the same and very boring and I don't care about the aesthetics at all. I enjoy creating games(not minigames, whole games) the most in LBP, because I put real effort into it, not just "mindless" work.
And I never said people who play copied levels "have a problem", I'm just saying that if they were a little bit more intelligent, they would find a lot better ways to entertain themselves. Because copied levels aren't just copied, they're mostly just terrible levels and the fact that people choose those levels instead of playing, for example Mm picks. There's over 200 Mm picks and they're all awesome, so why would you play some crapy shark survival or something instead.
"NOT KNOWING WHAT THE HELL YOUR DOING, But... You like it"
No, I honestly never felt like that, it's not real "fun". Not knowing what you're doing is terrible. But you probably have absolutely no idea how the computer you're using works, do you? You use it, but you don't care how it works, that really makes no sense to me. You clearly don't know what I'm saying and you don't understand it at all. If you would go mental if those people would all leave the community, then you should probably visit the psychologist right now. I'd rather have 75% less plays than having 99% of players being comparable to a dog.

You never "needed" to use it because you don't "need" to be a better creator. It's not quite possible to use the "copy" button properly any more, because everybody is scared of his level being stolen, but some creators did want to share their ideas, inventions and very interesting discovers with everyone when I was starting to play LBP, I did not learn a lot from that, but I think it is a very good idea to share your ideas like that and I would want to maybe use it that way someday.

I have only used the copy button to copy cross controller items without buying a vita, other than that I see no real use for it.

Umm... I just wanted to say that they are not really "stupid" people with no intelligence. I just think they need some time to know this game better. I mean, when i first bought LBP2 (5 months ago), I played that kind of levels (like bomb survivals, shark survivals... I know, terrible -.-) for first 2 months. Then I realised the real point of LBP2 and started to enjoy artistic platformers and all the good levels. What I'm trying to say, these spammers only need time to know the game a little better. And there is always this, lets say, 30% of players who will always play spam levels and publish spam levels. What I think is the best to do, is just to ignore them. And I fully agree with epicQ_.

Sorry for my bad english, and thanks for reading my opinion! http://www.littlebigforum.eu/forum/download/images/a_180_77874ac5.png

WHY U USE "" SO MUCH?!

Smigolpol: So you don't like platformers now!? Lbp is a platforming game lol... It's just how you don't like shark survivals and like full games, other people feel the exact opposite. There's really nothing wrong with it

Ok. We need to end this discussion, because there's no real point in continuing it.

You all have one opinion which is the compete opposite of mine, so I guess that's what we are going to say that I was wrong.
It just didn't feel right to me, when the "stage 1" for me took not 2 months, but less than 2 weeks. I guess other people play this game differently than I do, therefore they really get into it in a different amount of time. Yes, I don't like platformers, because for me LBP is not just a platforming game, it's a very powerful tool, that can be used to create things that are really amazing, and not just simple platformers that are all just the same, but look differently.

Ok. You just need to know that people find different things fun Just so you know i dislike spammers as much as the next guy.

@smigolpol We are all differing with you because theres a difference in experience, play time, personal opinion between you, me & the others. Analyze what your & others are actually saying and this whole "argument" wouldn't have even begun in the first place. Instead of replying on such stern matter, ending up looking like you arrived to LBP2 two moths ago. I find it really offensive how you insult this new players in the community & I have a clear vision that you haven't even got a taste of the Cool Pages (Because of your complete ignorance of the "system"

Community; We have the good neighbors, the bad & the new guys on the block. Usually the new guys, meet the bad neighbors before the good guys have a Chance to introduce themselves. It's like they came RUNING with hot pockets, Oreos & a MC Donal's gift card (unhealthy but so good), and we came with a Fruit and Vegetable Basket talking about this new vegan restaurant down the street (Healthy but not so good in a young age). You want the easy, quick & fun option at the moment. But then you start seeing what wonderful recipes the good neighbors are wiping up with the fruit & vegetables they gave you! The bad neighbors keeps sending Oreos & Mc Donal's gift cards. They are just boring now, you want something fresh! You asked yourself. Maybe I can do something like that? You start experimenting. You love the Fruits & Veggies.You see how good they are & unknowingly you keep ignoring the things, that where bad for you. Slowly you keep linking them more & more and start bringing them to the table more, more & more Veggies! Then one day you decide to go full Vegan! After that the good neighbors start liking you attitude more. They keep giving you new recipes, exotic veggies, maybe a new utensil or they suggest amazing restaurants for you to visit.. Soon enough you open your own restaurant, wait a minute. Nobody's coming in? No wonder, they are in with the bad neighbors on Mc Donal's pigging out when you. You elaborate a strategy to bring them to you. What to do? Let's go ell the new neighbors about your new restaurant. And make them a fresh Fruit & veggie Basket.

Its a Cycle. Darkness can't exist without light and the same thing backward. We need each other to survive. Keep the spammers. Keep the good creators, Keep the copy button, keep the publishing rates. We must coexist.

That was the best analogy I have ever seen. Perfectly described!

Everything is easy to understand with a Fast Food / Vegan Community Analogy. lo

Did you read my last post? I've already analysed the whole discussion and clearly understood the point everyone was making, so I admitted I was wrong, because I was comparing everyone to myself. You don't understand my point of view at all if you think I insulted anybody. You say I do not know what the "taste" of Cool Pages is, just because I am using it right? Cool Pages show popular levels, not good levels, so it is obvious that you have to filter trough them to find something good. It's really not my fault that most of people don't automatically take logical arguments and do what you're supposed to do. My mistake was to compare what I would do and what people do. It is logical that doing something what is the exact opposite of what is logical to do doesn't make any sense. Is "ignoring" the system anything bad? Just think about it, the system is terrible, it will never be any fair, or work the way it's supposed to. All the social systems are terrible, for many reasons, but the main one is because people are not equal and not everyone should have the same right and responsibilities.
You picked a bad example. Even tough the word "Darkness" wouldn't exist without light, it would still be dark in the meaning that you wouldn't see anything, and the same thing vice versa, light could exist everywhere and there would no darkness, but it wouldn't mean it doesn't exists. People don't need other people to survive(at least not all people), one human alone can live, but he would never achieve as much as the humanity did. But it's a little bit different with the LBP, because most the people that could do something good for the Community are pretty much invisible due to the majority of people being "spammers".

I think we should close this topic pretty soon.

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@epicQ_ Use quotes instead of @<name>, so I can know what post you're replying to.

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Not for everyone tough, I skipped most of that part, because I didn't know how it applies to the topic. http://www.littlebigforum.eu/forum/download/images/a_313_e938a1e6.gif

Actually only LBP1 and LBP PSP are platforming games, LBP2 is a "platform for games" as advertised. It's just easier to create those platforming levels in LBP2 and there is several great ones out there, I only like unique ones like RikiRiki-ita's. Most of basic platformers should just stay in LBP1 or in a garbage bin in my opinion.
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Actually only LBP1 and LBP PSP are platforming games, LBP2 is a "platform for games" as advertised. It's just easier to create those platforming levels in LBP2 and there is several great ones out there, I only like unique ones like RikiRiki-ita's. Most of basic platformers should just stay in LBP1 or in a garbage bin in my opinion.


Exactly, the main feature, that makes LBP2 better than LBP1 for me is the logic. Even though some platformers use logic, they can work the same way without it. So making platformers is a little bit of a waste on LBP2. And it's also kinda boring to make simple platformers when other people make amazing games/minigames/other kinds of levels.